Date:
Thu, 2 Feb 2006 22:31:51 -0500
From:
David Cheifetz
Subject:
Standard of care in contribution proceedings
I'm
still puzzled as to where you're going. My apologies if I'm being
obtuse.
I
agree with you that Doctor A's inexperience may be relevant to the
ultimate apportionment but I don't see what point it illustrates.
A's inexperience could well be relevant in the question of whether
A was at fault at all - the liability question. Assuming A is at
fault, again it could be relevant to the question of the extent
to which A departed from his standard. But I don't see where you're
going with that.
In
order to apportion, we need to put quantitative and qualitative
adjectives on the fault of the persons at fault - small, large,
great, serious, minor etc - so that we can then compare the values
in those adjectives. Call this the process of determining the magnitude
of the fault . The magnitude tells us how significant we think the
breach of the standard of conduct was for each person at fault.
Doctor A's inexperience was relevant to determining his magnitude
to the extent it is relevant to determining the extent of his departure.
But it's not relevant to the extent of Doctor B's departure unless
Doctor B is responsible for A's conduct in addition to his own.
So, while we use may use A's inexperience to determine the magnitude
of his fault, it's spent once it's used in that fashion.
If
you're saying that we could look at what inexperience means in the
liability situation differently from what it means in the apportionment
situation, you're right, we could. There might be some other facts
that make that approach relevant. For example, where B was responsible
for A's training, but then it's something extrinsic to inexperience
that has made us treat inexperience differently. So, that B is responsible
for A's training might not give A a defence to P's claim (the liability
question) but might (where the apportionment regime rules permit)
allow A to get full indemnity from B. Absent some independent basis
for indemnity, you couldn't do that under a regime which apportions
based on comparative degrees of fault. Though I suppose you could
under the just & equitable ... extent of responsibility regime.
As
to whether we use "fault" differently in the apportionment
context than the liability (for damages) context - I'm not certain
that's so - and I'm not certain what you mean by suggesting a different
meaning. "Fault" is the departure from the applicable
standard. That the content of what makes up fault may vary from
case to case doesn't mean that what we mean by fault is different.
Assume
a case where X, Y and Z are all at fault for the loss and the injured
persons are X and Y. It's quite possible that X's and Y's percentages
of fault in relation to their own injuries (their contributory fault)
will be different than their percentages of fault in relation to
the other's injuries. [See Barisic v Devenport and Renaissance
v Frazer mentioned in my earlier message.] But that doesn't
mean we use fault differently. The difference in the values will
be because the issues / facts which are relevant in each case may
be different.
When,
under just & equitable regimes, apportionment is varied from
what it would based on fault because one of the "wrongdoers"
is held liable strictly, or because of impecuniosity of one of the
wrongdoers, that isn't because we understand fault differently in
those contexts. That's because the regime permits apportionment
adjustments on bases other than fault.
David
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Original Message -----
From: "Robert Stevens"
To: "David Cheifetz"
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: ODG: Standard of care in contribution proceedings
Is your proposition that "fault" for apportionment
should be more subjectively-based than "fault" in
the context of liability premised on the notion that apportionment
is conducted under a "just & equitable" regime
rather than a "comparison of degrees of fault" regime?
I don't see that it matters because, in either case, one first
has to determine what one means by fault.
I think the degree of fault that a claimant needs to establish
in order to bring a successful claim varies. Where two defendants
are jointly liable for the commission of a tort where liability
is strict, such as conversion, in determining the appropriate
contribution as between the two of them the standard applicable
in order to establish liability is obviously of no relevance.
I think the same is true where the defendants are both liable
for torts committed through negligence.
Jones
v Manchester City Corp is a nice illustration. As between
claimant and defendant doctor, the doctor's lack of experience
was irrelevant in relation to the standard of care expected. As
between doctor and hospital (or doctor and anaesthetist) the doctor's
inexperience was highly relevant in determining the parties relative
fault for purposes of contribution.
This doesn't, of course, mean that the test is wholly subjective.
If in a car accident which is the result of the carelessness of
two defendant drivers, one driver cannot seek to argue that he
is particularly clumsy, or reckless and so less at fault when
compared with his fellow tortfeasor. Some of our characteristics
(eg our clumsiness, stupidity, recklessness) we have to take responsibility
for. However, the range of characteristics which are relevant
in relation to contribution claims (and the defence of contributory
negligence) are rather different from those relevant at the liability
stage. This is because what we mean by 'fault' is rather different.
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