From: Matthew
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Sent: Tuesday
23 July 2024 16:18
To: Jason W
Neyers; william.swadling; robert.stevens; donal.nolan; obligations
Subject: Re:
Nuisance as an interference with the abstract useability of land
The
public highway element is a special case, although as it involves a “private
property right”, a right of access or of way onto the highway, I’m entirely
comfortable with saying obstructing the access point is a direct physical
interference with land over which the (dominant) owner has rights.
Straightforwardly nuisance.
But
say my land is on a peninsula, and the strip of land that connects to the
mainland (and the highway) is owned by my neighbour. There is no easement,
although he allows me to walk over it by licence. If the local government were
to fence of that strip, even abutting the fence to my land, I don’t think that
would be nuisance.
Matthew
Hoyle
Barrister
One
Essex Court
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From: Jason W Neyers <jneyers@uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2024 3:42:37 PM
To: william.swadling <william.swadling@law.ox.ac.uk>;
robert.stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>;
Matthew Hoyle <MHoyle@oeclaw.co.uk>;
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Subject: RE: Nuisance as an interference with the abstract useability of
land
At a higher level, the concern is that the abstract useability of land
thesis cannot explain why, according to cases of high authority, the
obstruction has to be contiguous to the property since both a contiguous and
obstruction further afield both interfere in the same way.
On the private right, see Toronto Transit Commission v Swansea
(Village):
There is no difficulty upon the question of the right
at common law of an owner of land adjoining a public highway. He is entitled to
access to such highway at any point at which his land actually touches such
highway for any kind of traffic which is necessary for the reasonable enjoyment
of his premises … This is a right of property that was well settled at the
common law. A private owner was always entitled to a full and uninterrupted
access from his property that adjoined a public highway to that public highway
… When he reaches the public highway and travels upon it, the private owner
becomes then one of the public using the highway and subject to all the duties
and obligations that rest upon the public generally, but it is his private
right to be fully and freely permitted at all points of his private property to
have freedom of access to the adjoining public highway.
Jason Neyers
Professor of Law
Faculty of Law
Western University
Law Building Rm 26
e. jneyers@uwo.ca
t. 519.661.2111 (x88435)
From: Jason W Neyers
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2024 10:39 AM
To: William Swadling <william.swadling@law.ox.ac.uk>;
robert.stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>;
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Subject: RE: Nuisance as an interference with the abstract useability of
land
I believe that the thinking is that if nuisance is only about the
abstract useability of land then the defendant in Crabb would have been
committing a private nuisance by not giving a right of way and that the
plaintiff would have been entitled to one without payment or any form of
estoppel.
Jason Neyers
Professor of Law
Faculty of Law
Western University
Law Building Rm 26
e. jneyers@uwo.ca
t. 519.661.2111 (x88435)
From: William Swadling <william.swadling@law.ox.ac.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2024 10:33 AM
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Subject: RE: Nuisance as an interference with the abstract useability of
land
I’m struggling the understand the relevance of Crabb v
Arun DC. Mr Arun was promised by Arun DC that they would grant him an
easement over their land, over which he could then access the public
highway. There was nothing in the case about direct access to the highway
from Mr Crabb’s land. As is well known, negotiations for the grant, which
was to be paid for, broke down. In the meantime, however, Mr Crabb had
acted to his detriment by selling off the front part of his land, which did
abut the highway, leaving the retained back part landlocked. He sought an
order that Arun DC, though the doctrine of estoppel, grant him an easement,
basing himself of their representation and his detrimental reliance. He
lost at first instance (shield not a sword stuff), but the CA ordered Arun to
give him the relief he sought (proprietary estoppel can be used as a
sword). It’s all obviously a bit dodgy, but I can’t for the life of me
see how the case has any bearing on Jason’s one, but then I’m only a humble
land lawyer.
Bill
From: Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2024 11:01 AM
To: Matthew Hoyle <MHoyle@oeclaw.co.uk>;
Donal Nolan <donal.nolan@law.ox.ac.uk>;
'Jason W Neyers' <jneyers@uwo.ca>;
obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: RE: Nuisance as an interference with the abstract useability of
land
I think Donal’s point goes beyond that though. I think there must be a
(natural) right of way to move from your land to the highway. Think of the
Coronation Street terraces where you (and me) grew up, where the door opens
straight on to the street.
I don’t think that makes good Donal’s general view though, as Crabb v
Arun shows.
R
From: Matthew Hoyle <MHoyle@oeclaw.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2024 10:58 AM
To: Donal Nolan <donal.nolan@law.ox.ac.uk>;
Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>;
'Jason W Neyers' <jneyers@uwo.ca>;
obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: Nuisance as an interference with the abstract useability of
land
As I said,
if there is obstruction of any private right of way, then there is
nuisance. The Canadian case however seems to be predicated on the assumption
there wasn’t such (at least as I’d understood Jason’s email).
If there
is unlawful interference with a public amenity like the highway, that specially
affects the landowner, public nuisance. If the authority fences in my land in
deliberate breach of its powers, misfeasance in public office. Absent that,
you’re in Club Cruise territory, and your remedy is JR.
Matthew
Hoyle
Barrister
One Essex
Court
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From:
Donal Nolan <donal.nolan@law.ox.ac.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2024 10:28:01 AM
To: Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>;
Matthew Hoyle <MHoyle@oeclaw.co.uk>;
'Jason W Neyers' <jneyers@uwo.ca>;
obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: RE: Nuisance as an interference with the abstract useability of
land
Well in
that case we agree. But Jason and Matthew seemed to think otherwise, judging by
their reactions to the Canadian case. If you want to call it a ‘natural right’
that’s fine. But in effect the law is protecting the usability of the land, and
rightly so.
D
From: Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>
Sent: 23 July 2024 10:26
To: Donal Nolan <donal.nolan@law.ox.ac.uk>;
Matthew Hoyle <MHoyle@oeclaw.co.uk>;
'Jason W Neyers' <jneyers@uwo.ca>;
obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: RE: Nuisance as an interference with the abstract useability of
land
That should be tortious. I think there must be a
(general, natural) right of way where your land abuts the highway. So, it is
like cutting off water that flows on to your land. If my front door opens on to
the highway, and someone parks outside it so I can’t get out of my house, I
think that must be a private nuisance.
But if they do it on their own land, destroying the
utility of your land, unless you have a right of way, no claim: Crabb v Arun.
Unless we believe the theory that we no longer need to
identify any interference with a (natural) right of land, and that interfering
with abstract utility suffices.
From: Donal Nolan <donal.nolan@law.ox.ac.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2024 10:21 AM
To: Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>;
Matthew Hoyle <MHoyle@oeclaw.co.uk>;
'Jason W Neyers' <jneyers@uwo.ca>;
obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: RE: Nuisance as an interference with the abstract useability of
land
On the
highway. *Just* outside your land but flush with the boundary so there
is neither a trespass to your land nor any significant interference with
passage along the highway, and so no public nuisance either. Your view is that
that is not tortious?
D
From: Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>
Sent: 23 July 2024 10:14
To: Donal Nolan <donal.nolan@law.ox.ac.uk>;
Matthew Hoyle <MHoyle@oeclaw.co.uk>;
'Jason W Neyers' <jneyers@uwo.ca>;
obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: RE: Nuisance as an interference with the abstract useability of
land
Where is this fence?
On your land? A clear tort.
On the highway? A clear tort: public nuisance? I don’t
think landowners without more ado acquire their own special rights of way over
the highway, or over any other area of land.
On their land, which is between your land and the
highway, ending all access for you to your land? Unless you have a right of
way, they can do that: Crabb v Arun (before Fearn v Tate).
From: Donal Nolan <donal.nolan@law.ox.ac.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2024 10:09 AM
To: Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>;
Matthew Hoyle <MHoyle@oeclaw.co.uk>;
'Jason W Neyers' <jneyers@uwo.ca>;
obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: RE: Nuisance as an interference with the abstract useability of
land
I mean by
‘direct access’ access from the highway that is not dependent on a private
right of way. You just walk/drive from the highway onto your land. Pretty
standard stuff! And the scenario is that the authority erects a fence that
blocks that access (but not the highway, and so not a public nuisance). A tort
or not?
D
From: Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>
Sent: 23 July 2024 10:01
To: Donal Nolan <donal.nolan@law.ox.ac.uk>;
Matthew Hoyle <MHoyle@oeclaw.co.uk>;
'Jason W Neyers' <jneyers@uwo.ca>;
obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: RE: Nuisance as an interference with the abstract useability of
land
And, I had thought that in Crabb v Arun what was
blocked was direct access from the highway?
R
From: Robert Stevens
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2024 9:57 AM
To: Donal Nolan <donal.nolan@law.ox.ac.uk>;
Matthew Hoyle <MHoyle@oeclaw.co.uk>;
'Jason W Neyers' <jneyers@uwo.ca>;
obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: RE: Nuisance as an interference with the abstract useability of
land
Absent a right of way, why does that make a difference
to private nuisance? Are you suggesting that if I own land that gives me a
(special) right of way over the highway that non-landowners don’t have?
Blocking the highway might be a public nuisance, but
unless you have a right of way, I don’t think people blocking your access to
anywhere can be a private nuisance (or, at least, it couldn’t be until Fearn v
Tate detached private nuisance from rights in relation to land).
From: Donal Nolan <donal.nolan@law.ox.ac.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2024 9:52 AM
To: Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>;
Matthew Hoyle <MHoyle@oeclaw.co.uk>;
'Jason W Neyers' <jneyers@uwo.ca>;
obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: RE: Nuisance as an interference with the abstract useability of
land
I had in
mind the blocking of direct access from the highway.
D
From: Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>
Sent: 23 July 2024 08:56
To: Donal Nolan <donal.nolan@law.ox.ac.uk>;
Matthew Hoyle <MHoyle@oeclaw.co.uk>;
'Jason W Neyers' <jneyers@uwo.ca>;
obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: Nuisance as an interference with the abstract useability of
land
If they
don't have a right of way? Of course.
What else
was Crabb v Arun about?
R
From: Donal Nolan <donal.nolan@law.ox.ac.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2024 7:41:15 AM
To: Matthew Hoyle <MHoyle@oeclaw.co.uk>;
'Jason W Neyers' <jneyers@uwo.ca>;
obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: RE: Nuisance as an interference with the abstract useability of
land
Not sure the case tells us much as the defendant
didn’t build the fence itself, so they were (at most) an accessory.
Do Jason and Matthew think that a public body that
goes round building fences which block access to people’s properties without
lawful authority, thereby preventing use of the land for a period, shouldn’t be
liable to the owners?
All best
Donal
From:
Matthew Hoyle <MHoyle@oeclaw.co.uk>
Sent: 22 July 2024 15:43
To: 'Jason W Neyers' <jneyers@uwo.ca>;
obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: RE: Nuisance as an interference with the abstract useability of
land
Thanks
Jason,
Certainly,
your sign example appears right to me. Compare the judgment of Flaux J (as he
was) in Club Cruise [2008] EWHC 2794 (Comm) (albeit a claim in
conversion, not nuisance). The claimant’s right to exclusive possession of the
ship was not affected by the invalid orders given by the authorities, even if
they had in fact deprived the claimant of their freedom to use their ship.
Similarly,
in your sign example, the fact that a sign has effectively precluded use of the
land should not amount to a private wrong. Nothing has been done to the land.
If I install a sign outside your theme park which says “danger, land
irradiated”, I can see that might amount to defamation or malicious falsehood,
but is not an interference with your right to the land.
I also
agree here that, absent a right of way over neighbouring land which is
obstructed by the fence, this result looks right. Indeed, if the land had been
in commercial use by the claimant, I don’t think that ought to make a
difference (like in Club Cruise).
On
English law’s new understanding of nuisance following Tate however, both
the sign and the fence ought to attract liability. “Use and enjoyment” of the
land has been impaired.
Matthew Hoyle
Barrister
One Essex Court
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From:
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Sent: Monday, July 22, 2024 3:12 PM
To: obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: ODG: Nuisance as an interference with the abstract useability
of land
Dear
Colleagues:
Those of
you interested in nuisance will be interested in the BCCA’s decision in British Columbia (Minister of Public
Safety) v Latham,
2023 BCCA 104. In that case the Province, in response to the appearance of
sinkholes in a subdivision, extended a state of emergency (“the SOLE”) without
statutory authority under the relevant act (the “EPA”) and provided funding to
the District for the construction of a fence that prevented the plaintiff’s
from accessing their property in that subdivision. The plaintiffs sued, on the
authority of Antrim, claiming that the Province had committed a
nuisance. The court denied the claim as follows:
91 … it would logically flow from
the respondents' theory, which is implicitly accepted by the trial judge, that
every order issued under the EPA that substantially and unreasonably
interferes with the use of private property would be prima facie
actionable in nuisance, subject to the defence of statutory authority. In fact,
they concede as such: at para. 62 above. In other words, liability in nuisance
would arise automatically from a finding that the exercise of such powers was
unlawful in an administrative law sense. Furthermore, the scope of this new
form of tort liability would not be restricted to powers under the EPA.
Liability in nuisance could arise from orders, policies, authorizations, and
other decisions made pursuant to any legislation that authorizes a substantial
interference with the use of private property regardless of whether the
government entity in question has made any use of land. All that would be
required to establish liability in nuisance is a successful application for
judicial review. In my view, this unbridled expansion of the tort to include
"regulatory nuisance" is unprincipled and contrary to the existing
jurisprudence. …
94 In light of the authorities discussed above, I would
conclude that a defendant government entity must, at a minimum, be engaged in a
use of land in order to attract liability in nuisance. It is not sufficient for
competing uses of land to be involved in a general sense. I would also conclude
that the tort of nuisance does not extend to regulatory action by a public body
that directly interferes with a claimant's use of land, even where those
decisions are subsequently found to be unlawful in an administrative law sense.
In my view, it makes no difference to the analysis whether one focusses on the
Minister's extensions of the SOLE or on the Province's contribution to the
funding of a fence.
95 Here, there is no suggestion that the Province owned,
occupied, or made use of land from which a nuisance emanated. The source of the
alleged nuisance -- the Province's interconnected extensions of the SOLE and
funding of the fence - - involved an exercise of its statutory powers, a
regulatory response under the EPA to the geotechnical instabilities in
Seawatch. Whether or not a portion of the fence may have been constructed on
adjacent land, the purpose of the fence was to directly impede the respondents'
access to property as a means of enforcing the evacuation order. Furthermore,
it was the District, not the Province, that arranged for its construction:
Reasons at para. 7. I do not consider purely regulatory activity impacting
land, without more, to be a "use" of that land that could attract
liability in nuisance.
96 To state my conclusions in a somewhat different way: this
case does not concern competing uses of land, but rather a government body's
exercise of emergency powers to directly regulate the respondents' properties.
Respectfully, the judge therefore erred in law in concluding that the Province
could be liable in nuisance for its regulatory actions in these circumstances.
…
The
result seems totally inconsistent with theories that view nuisance solely as
protecting interferences with the abstract useability of land, but seems
intuitively correct to me (especially if we ignore the fence and just assume a
sign was used rather than a physical barrier). I would explain that result by
saying that (without the fence) their would be no physical interference with
any of the plaintiff’s rights to land (their column, their natural rights or
acquired rights) rather than relying on no land use (as does the court) but the
result would be the same as that gotten by the court. Could abstract useability
theories explain the result?
Sincerely,
Jason Neyers
Professor of Law
Faculty of Law
Western University
Law Building Rm 26
e. jneyers@uwo.ca
t. 519.661.2111 (x88435)
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